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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts on Alexandria</title>
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		<title>By: +Malcolm to retire this summer (and other ANiC News for Feb 19/09) &#171; The Occasional Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>+Malcolm to retire this summer (and other ANiC News for Feb 19/09) &#171; The Occasional Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rev Dr Leander Harding has joining the ranks of those responding to the Primates Communiqué.  He says: “There is a sense of the bizarre and of unreality about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank-you, Leander+; very helpful indeed--well-written and -informed, theological, constructive, and sober. I especially appreciate your emphasis on the importance of a covenant for &quot;the rebuilding and renewal of a world-wide Anglican Communion&quot; (#2); your commendation of WCG&#039;s idea of &quot;ecclesiological escrow&quot; (#8); and your plea for &quot;more robust ecumenical relationships&quot; (#10).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you, Leander+; very helpful indeed&#8211;well-written and -informed, theological, constructive, and sober. I especially appreciate your emphasis on the importance of a covenant for &#8220;the rebuilding and renewal of a world-wide Anglican Communion&#8221; (#2); your commendation of WCG&#8217;s idea of &#8220;ecclesiological escrow&#8221; (#8); and your plea for &#8220;more robust ecumenical relationships&#8221; (#10).</p>
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		<title>By: ted mcwhorter</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted mcwhorter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Doctor has given an excellent diagnosis. His prescription is not. The patient will surely die before the Covenant medicine will work.

As an active participant in The Conflict for over 30 years, I find it just bizarre that the idea of a non enforceable covenant, twenty years more to go, is any thing but a death sentence for TEC orthodoxy. Does not the good doctor understand that TEO and its apparatchiks will expire from old age before they will consent to another even moderate bishop? Never. Ever Never. In twenty years there will be no Christians in the TEC House of Bishops. To whom, then, will we be able to turn to? The dioceses Dr. Harding enjoin to sign a covenant prior to that time &quot;seeing through of that process&quot; will have long since been abandoned to the TEO.

Refrain from mission work? Abandon the Great Commission while bemused old men dither about?  Certainly not, since it represents the only legitimate Anglican mission effort in North America. 

I tire of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Doctor has given an excellent diagnosis. His prescription is not. The patient will surely die before the Covenant medicine will work.</p>
<p>As an active participant in The Conflict for over 30 years, I find it just bizarre that the idea of a non enforceable covenant, twenty years more to go, is any thing but a death sentence for TEC orthodoxy. Does not the good doctor understand that TEO and its apparatchiks will expire from old age before they will consent to another even moderate bishop? Never. Ever Never. In twenty years there will be no Christians in the TEC House of Bishops. To whom, then, will we be able to turn to? The dioceses Dr. Harding enjoin to sign a covenant prior to that time &#8220;seeing through of that process&#8221; will have long since been abandoned to the TEO.</p>
<p>Refrain from mission work? Abandon the Great Commission while bemused old men dither about?  Certainly not, since it represents the only legitimate Anglican mission effort in North America. </p>
<p>I tire of this.</p>
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		<title>By: leander</title>
		<link>http://www.leanderharding.com/blog/2009/02/11/thoughts-on-alexandria/comment-page-1/#comment-6711</link>
		<dc:creator>leander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree that TEC is unlikely to sign an Anglican Covenant through any General Convention that is thinkable in the next twenty years but I do think there are a number of TEC dioceses that will be able and want to sign a covenant and maintain their full membership in the communion and the seeing through of that process is well worth the effort in my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree that TEC is unlikely to sign an Anglican Covenant through any General Convention that is thinkable in the next twenty years but I do think there are a number of TEC dioceses that will be able and want to sign a covenant and maintain their full membership in the communion and the seeing through of that process is well worth the effort in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: LAODICEANS &#124; Midwest Conservative Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAODICEANS &#124; Midwest Conservative Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Leander Harding reacts to the Alexandria Communiqué: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Reasonable and Sober Assessment &#124; St. Peter's Anglican Church</title>
		<link>http://www.leanderharding.com/blog/2009/02/11/thoughts-on-alexandria/comment-page-1/#comment-6663</link>
		<dc:creator>A Reasonable and Sober Assessment &#124; St. Peter's Anglican Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.leanderharding.com/blog/2009/02/11/thoughts-on-alexandria/ The Beginning of the End? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BabyBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.leanderharding.com/blog/2009/02/11/thoughts-on-alexandria/comment-page-1/#comment-6660</link>
		<dc:creator>BabyBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am grateful for your thoughtful comments about the current state of Anglican Communion affairs.  I agree with you that &quot;There is a sense of the bizarre and of unreality about discussions that view schism as something that approaches but has not yet come. (The next General Convention of The Episcopal Church may clarify this reality in a stunning way.) The church at all levels is torn and the question now is what degree of reconciliation is possible and what will the de jure structures of a reconciled communion look like. &quot;  

There are times when it seems like Rowan Williams is five or ten years behind the reality that is The Episcopal Church (and in place so many of us once were), but even out of this last meeting seemed to grow closer to getting it, including the challenges that are before the establishment of a new province in North America.  That he would actually mention publicly that this is going on and neither dismiss it or ignore it is in fact encouraging.

Thank you for your thoughts that are very helpful.  I wish I could share optimism for the Covenant - but it seems highly unlikely that TEC will ever sign a covenant even in theory - and certainly won&#039;t even look at one until Schori is out of office.  That in itself, could be quite interesting.

-Mary Ailes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am grateful for your thoughtful comments about the current state of Anglican Communion affairs.  I agree with you that &#8220;There is a sense of the bizarre and of unreality about discussions that view schism as something that approaches but has not yet come. (The next General Convention of The Episcopal Church may clarify this reality in a stunning way.) The church at all levels is torn and the question now is what degree of reconciliation is possible and what will the de jure structures of a reconciled communion look like. &#8221;  </p>
<p>There are times when it seems like Rowan Williams is five or ten years behind the reality that is The Episcopal Church (and in place so many of us once were), but even out of this last meeting seemed to grow closer to getting it, including the challenges that are before the establishment of a new province in North America.  That he would actually mention publicly that this is going on and neither dismiss it or ignore it is in fact encouraging.</p>
<p>Thank you for your thoughts that are very helpful.  I wish I could share optimism for the Covenant &#8211; but it seems highly unlikely that TEC will ever sign a covenant even in theory &#8211; and certainly won&#8217;t even look at one until Schori is out of office.  That in itself, could be quite interesting.</p>
<p>-Mary Ailes</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Robison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Robison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Leander.  Thanks for a very helpful review and analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Leander.  Thanks for a very helpful review and analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Leander+  I think this is a calm, helpful analysis of what happened and where we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Leander+  I think this is a calm, helpful analysis of what happened and where we are.</p>
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