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	<title>Comments on: My Remarks at The Tutu Center Conference on The Anglican Covenant</title>
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		<title>By: IB Bill</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray! I&#039;ve been waiting for someone to articulate this so clearly for a long time. 

Many years ago, I went to AA and got sober. Afterward, an active alcoholic kept trying to use scientific evidence against AA to argue with me. I tried to explain that the question is not scientific in nature. Getting sober is more akin to walking across a mountain pass. I went the way they told me, and I came through, and I came back. Now I can guide you through the pass. And he said the equivalent of, &quot;Well, 75% of people who take that first fork don&#039;t make it. That&#039;s what science shows.&quot; And I said, &quot;I can show you the way through.&quot;

Anyway, he didn&#039;t get sober for another four years, finally going the path me and several others recommended to him. By then, he&#039;d unfortunately suffered a lot more pain. 

I try to tell folks that faith and belief lead to understanding -- and others tell me, well, its all about your intentions. And I say, no, there&#039;s a point where God&#039;s grace comes to you, at a time of His choosing, and it&#039;s different from a pleasant sunset or a quiet night home after a good workout and a hard day&#039;s work. 

BTW, a good friend of mine, who has since passed, loved Polanyi&#039;s writing and spoke often of Personal Knowledge. I&#039;m grateful you were able to articulate so well the flawed worldview so prevalent today, as well as explain the spiritual alternative. 

Pax Christi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray! I&#8217;ve been waiting for someone to articulate this so clearly for a long time. </p>
<p>Many years ago, I went to AA and got sober. Afterward, an active alcoholic kept trying to use scientific evidence against AA to argue with me. I tried to explain that the question is not scientific in nature. Getting sober is more akin to walking across a mountain pass. I went the way they told me, and I came through, and I came back. Now I can guide you through the pass. And he said the equivalent of, &#8220;Well, 75% of people who take that first fork don&#8217;t make it. That&#8217;s what science shows.&#8221; And I said, &#8220;I can show you the way through.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, he didn&#8217;t get sober for another four years, finally going the path me and several others recommended to him. By then, he&#8217;d unfortunately suffered a lot more pain. </p>
<p>I try to tell folks that faith and belief lead to understanding &#8212; and others tell me, well, its all about your intentions. And I say, no, there&#8217;s a point where God&#8217;s grace comes to you, at a time of His choosing, and it&#8217;s different from a pleasant sunset or a quiet night home after a good workout and a hard day&#8217;s work. </p>
<p>BTW, a good friend of mine, who has since passed, loved Polanyi&#8217;s writing and spoke often of Personal Knowledge. I&#8217;m grateful you were able to articulate so well the flawed worldview so prevalent today, as well as explain the spiritual alternative. </p>
<p>Pax Christi.</p>
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